Winter Classic: Five Things That Are Wrong

There’s only six days left until the Winter Classic pits the New York Rangers and the Philadelphia Flyers in an outdoor battle at our own Citizens Bank Park. With the time quickly ticking away towards the Quaker City’s shot at national recognition, we thought it would be smart to examine the game itself and everything surrounding it.

Today, in the first of three parts, we’ll talk about what is wrong with the NHL’s New Year’s Day party continuing in the vein of our “Five Things” series.

5. Baseball Stadiums — Why, why WHY after getting 80,000 people crammed into Ralph Wilson Stadium in Orchard Park four years ago, did the NHL’s braintrust decide to hit up some decrepit baseball fields with half the capacity??? To put it plainly, the sight lines in “historic” Wrigley Field (2009) and Fenway Park (2010) largely sucked. The upper decks were held up with poles cemented to the lower decks so the same obstructed-view spots for the Cubs and Red Sox remained for hockey.

As a ticket holder, you’re stoked to buy seats behind home plate you never could justify under normal circumstances but can only see two-thirds of the actual play because you’re just about at rink level. You sit in the upper levels in the outfield and feel just as far away from center ice as you do from home plate.

It was a good move to go back to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh back in January, but here we go again with the cozy confines of Citizens Bank Park. I get it, that the less seats, the bigger the demand, the larger the jealousy for those who attend, and the more spread out the party actually becomes around the event…but WHY wouldn’t you keep doing it for 80G AND the extra thousands of people who want to be a part of the day?

Oh yeah, right…because the city you want to play the game already has their football stadium in use…

4. East Coast bias — The league wanted so badly to put their two largest Eastern markets on display that they were willing to disrupt a four-year “tradition” of an outdoor game on New Year’s Day and play it on the rather ordinary (except in the case of the author) date of January 2. That’s because Yankee Stadium has a college bowl game committed three days prior and Lincoln Financial Field has that pesky problem of hosting the final game of the Philadelphia Eagles’ failed 2011 experiment.

We all know the NHL needs to keep its ratings at a peak, but because of the NFL’s final regular-season contest on this coming Sunday, and the fact that there’s no bowl games with which to compete because of the BCS schedule spread, you have to take the game to more frozen pastures and play up other rivalries where conflict won’t arise. In five years, the Penguins have been featured twice, the Flyers twice and the only team outside the Eastern Time Zone to participate was the Chicago Blackhawks.

How about pitting Detroit and Colorado at Mile High? The names alone evoke old-time hockey. Even though it’s just as likely to be 60 and sunny than it is to be below freezing in Denver on January 1, we all know the league can work wonders with the ice-making machinery so it won’t be like that preseason Rangers-Kings game at Caesars Palace in Vegas 20 years ago. Hell, at Ford Field they should have no problem after hosting the 2010 Frozen Four.

3. Lack of neutral sites — Think about this. You want a once-a-year occurrence to have special meaning and significance in fans’ minds. Why are you holding the games in one city so that only one team’s fans get the experience of going on the road, blowing their hard-earned (or holiday given) money, and weaving their way through new surroundings in order to get the full-on road-trip scenario?

Why not hold a game on the Froooozen Tunnndra of Lammmbeauu Fielddddd??? Think about that…guaranteed 60 grand in attendance, historic but not crumbling venue, sub-zero temperatures in northern Wisconsin. Get the Minnesota Wild and Chicago Blackhawks involved and all their hockey freak supporters from traditional hockey markets.

If not, how about that long-rumored Penguins-Flyers mashup which was supposed to take place at Beaver Stadium in State College? THAT’S the Holy Grail. A stadium with 100,000-plus seats and a venue that’s built for tailgating over several square miles that’s equidistant from both cities that are ratings bonanzas? Sign me up. Maybe there’s an issue of clearance with the team/university but if they can host outdoor college hockey at Michigan State, how hard can it be to do so for the pros?

2. It’s too geared towards Television — No sense in hiding here, because whoever has tickets to the Winter Classic starts drinking pretty much as soon as they can wipe the sleep from their eyes and pull on a pair of corduroys. That’s roughly 9:18 AM for most of us. But when they tell us the game starts at 1 PM, and then we see the clock ticking past 1:15, then 1:30 and then see the litttle hand creep further towards the “2″ and there’s no face-off yet because the burnout local band from the 60′s has to take the “stage” for a loving reunion with their one-hit wonder, you’re playing Russian roulette with four bullets. That’s too many angry drunks kept waiting for what they actually came to see.

And just when you think you’re getting a respite from the action, and cracking on the other team’s fans sitting on either side of you, and all you want to do is take your eyes off the rink ands start drinking in the atmosphere, some dumbass down on the field starts blathering about something and maybe you are forced to sit through that dumbass Cubs victory song, or Sweet Caroline, or worse, Patti LaBelle.

No matter what, there are things going on before, during and after the game itself that have no bearing on the fan experience and can frankly be annoying and distracting to the paying customers. It’s an all-out assault to keep the smart people i.e. the ones who didn’t shovel out a paycheck for the experience, glued to the television. The worst part is, there often are not any cues from the public address that anything is going to occur before it does. It just happens, and there’s a visible aura of WTF from the people who are still sober enough to be rattled because they can still react to what exists beyond the inside of their own eyeballs.

I don’t know what the answer is here. Maybe hand out leaflets with a schedule printed on them so people know exactly what to expect, maybe this year have Dan Baker use his dulcet tones to announce the pre-during-and-post-game extras. Maybe use that 1000″ HDTV scoreboard to warn us what’s coming so we can grab those 6 craft beers we haven’t tried because we don’t want to see an 87-year-old Chubby Checker do The Twist at intermission.

Or maybe we should just ditch it and stay in, so we can make everyone jealous talking about that massive tracking shot of what it looks like to see CBP while accidentally falling out of the fuselage of a 747 at 9.8 meters per second squared without a parachute.

1.The format is boring — It’s five years on and you can predict exactly what’s going to happen throughout the entire broadcast.

Fade in, and you have a silhouetted shot of the Rocky statue, giving way to a dissolve cut of various Broad Street Bullies thuggery which morphs into the two Stanley Cup parades in that same stock aerial shot above City Hall. Mike Emrick with the voice-over.

Mike Milbury with half-remembered war stories of what it was like to play in Philly during the heyday that was 35 years ago. Pierre McGuire jizzing over Claude Giroux and the inevitable comparisons by the talking heads between the old school and new jack players on both teams. Shots of steaming steaks on the grill at Pat’s/Geno’s. Boathouse row when it’s lit up near dark. Liberty Bell, Ben Franklin Bridge, stock photo of the Spectrum in its glory followed by the empty husk of Corporate Tax Shelter LIVE! A ceremonial face-off with Bobby Clarke and Rod Gilbert. Maybe some game action, finally.

Bland, inoffensive and older talent with tenuous connections to the host city at every opportunity.

LaBelle channeling Aretha Franklin in the pre-game with a 5-minute version of the National Anthem. Lauren Hart/Kate Smith/Gene Hart at intermission. Hall and Oates at the other intermission. Jim Croce’s widow in the post-game. More stories from an emotional mic-hog Jeremy Roenick about playing in Philadelphia. Random cutaways to Ron Duguay’s still-impressive hair in a luxury suite.

Oh, and did you know about the tracking shot which shows what it’s like to fall out of the fuselage of a 747 right above the field?

Repeat ad nauseam for future host cities.

If the NHL’s not careful — and there’s no reason to think that it will be — the Winter Classic will become a bland, unwatched little step-brother to the Super Bowl. It’s not so far away now, imagine what will happen in the next 2 years if thousands of someones don’t speak up and force the league to initiate some changes?

They did all of it for us, the fans. So if you got beef, then bring the ruckus. Time’s yours.

  • Skuttered

    Wait this is flyers blog right? and you are bitching about the flyers being it in too much. You’d rather see other teams is what you are saying. Jeeze wish it was jan 1st so I could say I found the shittiest written piece of the new year.

  • Skuttered

    Wait this is flyers blog right? and you are bitching about the flyers being it in too much. You’d rather see other teams is what you are saying. Jeeze wish it was jan 1st so I could say I found the shittiest written piece of the new year.

  • Skuttered

    Wait this is flyers blog right? and you are bitching about the flyers being it in too much. You’d rather see other teams is what you are saying. Jeeze wish it was jan 1st so I could say I found the shittiest written piece of the new year.

  • Skuttered

    Wait this is flyers blog right? and you are bitching about the flyers being it in too much. You’d rather see other teams is what you are saying. Jeeze wish it was jan 1st so I could say I found the shittiest written piece of the new year.

  • Skuttered

    Wait this is flyers blog right? and you are bitching about the flyers being it in too much. You’d rather see other teams is what you are saying. Jeeze wish it was jan 1st so I could say I found the shittiest written piece of the new year.

  • Skuttered

    Wait this is flyers blog right? and you are bitching about the flyers being it in too much. You’d rather see other teams is what you are saying. Jeeze wish it was jan 1st so I could say I found the shittiest written piece of the new year.

  • Skuttered

    Wait this is flyers blog right? and you are bitching about the flyers being it in too much. You’d rather see other teams is what you are saying. Jeeze wish it was jan 1st so I could say I found the shittiest written piece of the new year.

  • IHaveYourJob

    “Why not hold a game on the Froooozen Tunnndra of Lammmbeauu Fielddddd???Think about that…guaranteed 60 grand in attendance, historic but not crumbling venue, sub-zero temperatures in northern Wisconsin”
    Please, please, please tell me this entire thing is a joke post. Are you an idiot? Who the fuck is going to fly out to Wisconsin for a fucking hockey game?

    “2. It’s too geared towards Television”

    …You mean like every televised sport ever?

    “And just when you think you’re getting a respite from the action, and cracking on the other team’s fans sitting on either side of you, and all you want to do is take your eyes off the rink ands start drinking in the atmosphere, some dumbass down on the field starts blathering about something and maybe you are forced to sit through that dumbass Cubs victory song, or Sweet Caroline, or worse, Patti LaBelle.”

    Wait, wait, wait…you’re telling me that teams do entertainment in between the action that often times does’t have anything to do with hockey?! That’s completely unheard of! That never happens during regular season games or any other big games in any other sport right? 

    Also there’s no possible way for anyone to leave their seats andor not pay attention. Nope. They have special seat belts for that I hear.

    “ It’s five years on and you can predict exactly what’s going to happen throughout the entire broadcast.”

    So you know who’s going to win each game? Are you, like, on of those Precogs from Minority Report?

    “Fade in, and you have a silhouetted shot of the Rocky statue, giving way to a dissolve cut of various Broad Street Bullies thuggery which morphs into the two Stanley Cup parades in that same stock aerial shot above City Hall. Mike Emrick with the voice-over.”

    Oh you mean this. Well, if you had a half a fucking brain and had the slightest idea of what you were talking about, you’d know that most major sports productions are pretty by the numbers because, well, the format works really well.

    “Bland, inoffensive and older talent with tenuous connections to the host city at every opportunity.”

    …So, all of those things that you just said have *tenuous* connections to the host city? Philly, right? The Liberty Bell? Pat’s and Geno’s? Maybe the Ben Franklin Parkway? How the living fuck are they “tenuous” connections if they’re *iconic fucking symbols of the city where the game is happening*? Do you know the meaning of the word tenuous?

    “If the NHL’s not careful — and there’s no reason to think that it will be — the Winter Classic will become a bland, unwatched little step-brother to the Super Bowl. It’s not so far away now, imagine what will happen in the next 2 years if thousands of someones don’t speak up and force the league to initiate some changes?”

    The NHL isn’t competing with the Super Bowl so I’m not sure where you got that idea. Oh wait! You’re a moron! I think I have an idea of your logic.

    NFL – Big Game – Super Bowl
    NHL – Big Game – Winter Classic

    YES OF COURSE THEY’RE CLEARLY THE SAME (despite taking place at two completely different times of the year, at different points in their respective seasons, aiming for different audiences, etc. etc.)

    And yeah, bro, people are getting so boring. I think people are going to stop watching as soon as they realize tha-  …Oh…wait…

    “The Winter Classic has proven to be a ratings success for the league in the United States and is regularly the league’s most watched regular season contest (in the US), rivaling the ratings for the Stanley Cup.”

    …Oh…wait..and yeah, ratings aren’t spectacular in Canada, but imagine the kind of numbers are Canadian rivalry focused WC could pull in. 

    tl dr  You sound like a teenager who can’t make his case very well and is just looking for something to bitch about for the sake of bitching

  • IHaveYourJob

    “Why not hold a game on the Froooozen Tunnndra of Lammmbeauu Fielddddd???Think about that…guaranteed 60 grand in attendance, historic but not crumbling venue, sub-zero temperatures in northern Wisconsin”
    Please, please, please tell me this entire thing is a joke post. Are you an idiot? Who the fuck is going to fly out to Wisconsin for a fucking hockey game?

    “2. It’s too geared towards Television”

    …You mean like every televised sport ever?

    “And just when you think you’re getting a respite from the action, and cracking on the other team’s fans sitting on either side of you, and all you want to do is take your eyes off the rink ands start drinking in the atmosphere, some dumbass down on the field starts blathering about something and maybe you are forced to sit through that dumbass Cubs victory song, or Sweet Caroline, or worse, Patti LaBelle.”

    Wait, wait, wait…you’re telling me that teams do entertainment in between the action that often times does’t have anything to do with hockey?! That’s completely unheard of! That never happens during regular season games or any other big games in any other sport right? 

    Also there’s no possible way for anyone to leave their seats andor not pay attention. Nope. They have special seat belts for that I hear.

    “ It’s five years on and you can predict exactly what’s going to happen throughout the entire broadcast.”

    So you know who’s going to win each game? Are you, like, on of those Precogs from Minority Report?

    “Fade in, and you have a silhouetted shot of the Rocky statue, giving way to a dissolve cut of various Broad Street Bullies thuggery which morphs into the two Stanley Cup parades in that same stock aerial shot above City Hall. Mike Emrick with the voice-over.”

    Oh you mean this. Well, if you had a half a fucking brain and had the slightest idea of what you were talking about, you’d know that most major sports productions are pretty by the numbers because, well, the format works really well.

    “Bland, inoffensive and older talent with tenuous connections to the host city at every opportunity.”

    …So, all of those things that you just said have *tenuous* connections to the host city? Philly, right? The Liberty Bell? Pat’s and Geno’s? Maybe the Ben Franklin Parkway? How the living fuck are they “tenuous” connections if they’re *iconic fucking symbols of the city where the game is happening*? Do you know the meaning of the word tenuous?

    “If the NHL’s not careful — and there’s no reason to think that it will be — the Winter Classic will become a bland, unwatched little step-brother to the Super Bowl. It’s not so far away now, imagine what will happen in the next 2 years if thousands of someones don’t speak up and force the league to initiate some changes?”

    The NHL isn’t competing with the Super Bowl so I’m not sure where you got that idea. Oh wait! You’re a moron! I think I have an idea of your logic.

    NFL – Big Game – Super Bowl
    NHL – Big Game – Winter Classic

    YES OF COURSE THEY’RE CLEARLY THE SAME (despite taking place at two completely different times of the year, at different points in their respective seasons, aiming for different audiences, etc. etc.)

    And yeah, bro, people are getting so boring. I think people are going to stop watching as soon as they realize tha-  …Oh…wait…

    “The Winter Classic has proven to be a ratings success for the league in the United States and is regularly the league’s most watched regular season contest (in the US), rivaling the ratings for the Stanley Cup.”

    …Oh…wait..and yeah, ratings aren’t spectacular in Canada, but imagine the kind of numbers are Canadian rivalry focused WC could pull in. 

    tl dr  You sound like a teenager who can’t make his case very well and is just looking for something to bitch about for the sake of bitching

  • IHaveYourJob

    “Why not hold a game on the Froooozen Tunnndra of Lammmbeauu Fielddddd???Think about that…guaranteed 60 grand in attendance, historic but not crumbling venue, sub-zero temperatures in northern Wisconsin”
    Please, please, please tell me this entire thing is a joke post. Are you an idiot? Who the fuck is going to fly out to Wisconsin for a fucking hockey game?

    “2. It’s too geared towards Television”

    …You mean like every televised sport ever?

    “And just when you think you’re getting a respite from the action, and cracking on the other team’s fans sitting on either side of you, and all you want to do is take your eyes off the rink ands start drinking in the atmosphere, some dumbass down on the field starts blathering about something and maybe you are forced to sit through that dumbass Cubs victory song, or Sweet Caroline, or worse, Patti LaBelle.”

    Wait, wait, wait…you’re telling me that teams do entertainment in between the action that often times does’t have anything to do with hockey?! That’s completely unheard of! That never happens during regular season games or any other big games in any other sport right? 

    Also there’s no possible way for anyone to leave their seats andor not pay attention. Nope. They have special seat belts for that I hear.

    “ It’s five years on and you can predict exactly what’s going to happen throughout the entire broadcast.”

    So you know who’s going to win each game? Are you, like, on of those Precogs from Minority Report?

    “Fade in, and you have a silhouetted shot of the Rocky statue, giving way to a dissolve cut of various Broad Street Bullies thuggery which morphs into the two Stanley Cup parades in that same stock aerial shot above City Hall. Mike Emrick with the voice-over.”

    Oh you mean this. Well, if you had a half a fucking brain and had the slightest idea of what you were talking about, you’d know that most major sports productions are pretty by the numbers because, well, the format works really well.

    “Bland, inoffensive and older talent with tenuous connections to the host city at every opportunity.”

    …So, all of those things that you just said have *tenuous* connections to the host city? Philly, right? The Liberty Bell? Pat’s and Geno’s? Maybe the Ben Franklin Parkway? How the living fuck are they “tenuous” connections if they’re *iconic fucking symbols of the city where the game is happening*? Do you know the meaning of the word tenuous?

    “If the NHL’s not careful — and there’s no reason to think that it will be — the Winter Classic will become a bland, unwatched little step-brother to the Super Bowl. It’s not so far away now, imagine what will happen in the next 2 years if thousands of someones don’t speak up and force the league to initiate some changes?”

    The NHL isn’t competing with the Super Bowl so I’m not sure where you got that idea. Oh wait! You’re a moron! I think I have an idea of your logic.

    NFL – Big Game – Super Bowl
    NHL – Big Game – Winter Classic

    YES OF COURSE THEY’RE CLEARLY THE SAME (despite taking place at two completely different times of the year, at different points in their respective seasons, aiming for different audiences, etc. etc.)

    And yeah, bro, people are getting so boring. I think people are going to stop watching as soon as they realize tha-  …Oh…wait…

    “The Winter Classic has proven to be a ratings success for the league in the United States and is regularly the league’s most watched regular season contest (in the US), rivaling the ratings for the Stanley Cup.”

    …Oh…wait..and yeah, ratings aren’t spectacular in Canada, but imagine the kind of numbers are Canadian rivalry focused WC could pull in. 

    tl dr  You sound like a teenager who can’t make his case very well and is just looking for something to bitch about for the sake of bitching

  • nosetradamus

    Wow. To quote James Brown…you don’t know karate, but you know ka-razy (yes you do!). And there it is.

    To whoever “I Have Your Job” is, you’d definitely be better off writing a decent critique of the piece without all the ranting and name-calling.

    The object of a column, since you obviously have no clue, is to provoke reaction, and to pick and choose facts at will to back up a pre-chosen position. Just because something is committed to print, doesn’t mean it is 100 percent the author’s belief.

    So, the object was achieved, and thanks for sounding 100 percent more idiotic than anything presented above.

    And whoever ”skuttered” is…A) this is clearly not a blog. guess this is your first time reading. B) Just because “Flyers Faithful” is on the masthead doesn’t mean you’re not allowed to rip things that need ripping.

    Gents, keep up the work, however it’s viewed by the outside. I’ve been here since the beginning.

    • IHaveYourJob


      To whoever “I Have Your Job” is, you’d definitely be better off writing a decent critique of the piece without all the ranting and name-calling.”

      So did you just ignore everything I actually wrote or just see the name calling and think “My word this man is evil!” I’m pretty critical of this guy’s points with responses of my own, mainly because they’re almost all stupid, petty, and nitpicking in nature.

      He complains about “tenuous” connections to the city, despite the fact they’ll show icons associated with the city, discuss the rivalry between the Rangers and the Flyers, and host the game in their premiere ballpark. lolwut? (And complains about the kind of entertainment that’s held at pretty much every major sports event, well, ever.)

      The truth is, shit like this doesn’t deserve a “decent critique.” It’s ridiculously moronic and devoid of any real argument of things that are wrong with the Winter Classic (for me, it’s mainly that we haven’t seen a Canadian focused game and even as a Flyers fan I’m not big on having them going to another one when there’s a ton of awesome other rivalries and teams to choose from). This guy sounds like he’s never watched any other sports presentation and is shocked, SHOCKED, that it’s generally stuff to keep your average spectator at least mildly entertained until the next period of play. It’s not rocket science, nor is it confined to the NHL, so, uh, deal with it.

      And to your point to the other guy that this isn’t a blog: 

      “Welcome to the Flyers Faithful, a blog dedicated to a heartbreaking team.”

      herp derp, not a blog though right? And you’re right though, people should be allowed to rip into things that deserve it. But all of the things listed in this post are petty and dumb with little backing to it.

    • IHaveYourJob

      “The object of a column, since you obviously have no clue, is to provoke reaction, and to pick and choose facts at will to back up a pre-chosen position. ”
      Column writing requires the ability to articulate an opinion and do it in a convincing manner. It’s not about simply provoking reaction, a well written column is able to get its point across without logical fallacies, not jumping to conclusions, and not making broad statements.

      “Just because something is committed to print, doesn’t mean it is 100 percent the author’s belief.”

      So when someone writes a column it’s not actually their belief they’re just trying to troll people? You have interesting idea of how “print” works.

      Also if this was an actual “column” as you say, it would be following some kind of a style guide, perhaps the AP standard or some sort, and this article has zero focus when it comes to presenting an opinion with chosen facts, but keep fighting the good fight for terrible writers with bad opinions! A winner is you!

  • nosetradamus

    Wow. To quote James Brown…you don’t know karate, but you know ka-razy (yes you do!). And there it is.

    To whoever “I Have Your Job” is, you’d definitely be better off writing a decent critique of the piece without all the ranting and name-calling.

    The object of a column, since you obviously have no clue, is to provoke reaction, and to pick and choose facts at will to back up a pre-chosen position. Just because something is committed to print, doesn’t mean it is 100 percent the author’s belief.

    So, the object was achieved, and thanks for sounding 100 percent more idiotic than anything presented above.

    And whoever ”skuttered” is…A) this is clearly not a blog. guess this is your first time reading. B) Just because “Flyers Faithful” is on the masthead doesn’t mean you’re not allowed to rip things that need ripping.

    Gents, keep up the work, however it’s viewed by the outside. I’ve been here since the beginning.

    • IHaveYourJob


      To whoever “I Have Your Job” is, you’d definitely be better off writing a decent critique of the piece without all the ranting and name-calling.”

      So did you just ignore everything I actually wrote or just see the name calling and think “My word this man is evil!” I’m pretty critical of this guy’s points with responses of my own, mainly because they’re almost all stupid, petty, and nitpicking in nature.

      He complains about “tenuous” connections to the city, despite the fact they’ll show icons associated with the city, discuss the rivalry between the Rangers and the Flyers, and host the game in their premiere ballpark. lolwut? (And complains about the kind of entertainment that’s held at pretty much every major sports event, well, ever.)

      The truth is, shit like this doesn’t deserve a “decent critique.” It’s ridiculously moronic and devoid of any real argument of things that are wrong with the Winter Classic (for me, it’s mainly that we haven’t seen a Canadian focused game and even as a Flyers fan I’m not big on having them going to another one when there’s a ton of awesome other rivalries and teams to choose from). This guy sounds like he’s never watched any other sports presentation and is shocked, SHOCKED, that it’s generally stuff to keep your average spectator at least mildly entertained until the next period of play. It’s not rocket science, nor is it confined to the NHL, so, uh, deal with it.

      And to your point to the other guy that this isn’t a blog: 

      “Welcome to the Flyers Faithful, a blog dedicated to a heartbreaking team.”

      herp derp, not a blog though right? And you’re right though, people should be allowed to rip into things that deserve it. But all of the things listed in this post are petty and dumb with little backing to it.

    • IHaveYourJob

      “The object of a column, since you obviously have no clue, is to provoke reaction, and to pick and choose facts at will to back up a pre-chosen position. ”
      Column writing requires the ability to articulate an opinion and do it in a convincing manner. It’s not about simply provoking reaction, a well written column is able to get its point across without logical fallacies, not jumping to conclusions, and not making broad statements.

      “Just because something is committed to print, doesn’t mean it is 100 percent the author’s belief.”

      So when someone writes a column it’s not actually their belief they’re just trying to troll people? You have interesting idea of how “print” works.

      Also if this was an actual “column” as you say, it would be following some kind of a style guide, perhaps the AP standard or some sort, and this article has zero focus when it comes to presenting an opinion with chosen facts, but keep fighting the good fight for terrible writers with bad opinions! A winner is you!

  • nosetradamus

    Wow. To quote James Brown…you don’t know karate, but you know ka-razy (yes you do!). And there it is.

    To whoever “I Have Your Job” is, you’d definitely be better off writing a decent critique of the piece without all the ranting and name-calling.

    The object of a column, since you obviously have no clue, is to provoke reaction, and to pick and choose facts at will to back up a pre-chosen position. Just because something is committed to print, doesn’t mean it is 100 percent the author’s belief.

    So, the object was achieved, and thanks for sounding 100 percent more idiotic than anything presented above.

    And whoever ”skuttered” is…A) this is clearly not a blog. guess this is your first time reading. B) Just because “Flyers Faithful” is on the masthead doesn’t mean you’re not allowed to rip things that need ripping.

    Gents, keep up the work, however it’s viewed by the outside. I’ve been here since the beginning.

    • IHaveYourJob


      To whoever “I Have Your Job” is, you’d definitely be better off writing a decent critique of the piece without all the ranting and name-calling.”

      So did you just ignore everything I actually wrote or just see the name calling and think “My word this man is evil!” I’m pretty critical of this guy’s points with responses of my own, mainly because they’re almost all stupid, petty, and nitpicking in nature.

      He complains about “tenuous” connections to the city, despite the fact they’ll show icons associated with the city, discuss the rivalry between the Rangers and the Flyers, and host the game in their premiere ballpark. lolwut? (And complains about the kind of entertainment that’s held at pretty much every major sports event, well, ever.)

      The truth is, shit like this doesn’t deserve a “decent critique.” It’s ridiculously moronic and devoid of any real argument of things that are wrong with the Winter Classic (for me, it’s mainly that we haven’t seen a Canadian focused game and even as a Flyers fan I’m not big on having them going to another one when there’s a ton of awesome other rivalries and teams to choose from). This guy sounds like he’s never watched any other sports presentation and is shocked, SHOCKED, that it’s generally stuff to keep your average spectator at least mildly entertained until the next period of play. It’s not rocket science, nor is it confined to the NHL, so, uh, deal with it.

      And to your point to the other guy that this isn’t a blog: 

      “Welcome to the Flyers Faithful, a blog dedicated to a heartbreaking team.”

      herp derp, not a blog though right? And you’re right though, people should be allowed to rip into things that deserve it. But all of the things listed in this post are petty and dumb with little backing to it.

    • IHaveYourJob

      “The object of a column, since you obviously have no clue, is to provoke reaction, and to pick and choose facts at will to back up a pre-chosen position. ”
      Column writing requires the ability to articulate an opinion and do it in a convincing manner. It’s not about simply provoking reaction, a well written column is able to get its point across without logical fallacies, not jumping to conclusions, and not making broad statements.

      “Just because something is committed to print, doesn’t mean it is 100 percent the author’s belief.”

      So when someone writes a column it’s not actually their belief they’re just trying to troll people? You have interesting idea of how “print” works.

      Also if this was an actual “column” as you say, it would be following some kind of a style guide, perhaps the AP standard or some sort, and this article has zero focus when it comes to presenting an opinion with chosen facts, but keep fighting the good fight for terrible writers with bad opinions! A winner is you!

  • Sonny Lusch

    Holy shit. I mean, the guy’s not breaking any new ground here. It’s “5 things wrong with the Winter Classic” not deep thoughts or rocket science. And while everything he mentioned goes on at indoor venues no matter the sport and no matter what’s on the broadcast, I think he’s pointing out the hypocrisy of labelling it a special event and yet subjecting fans year after year to the same idiotic distractions they get on a regular ticket.

    And “I have your job,” if ya think no one’s gonna go to Northern Wisconsin for hockey, you don’t know how crazy fans are. They’d go to Fairbanks in February for the experience. Just like nobody’s gonna go to football in Northern Wisconsin…

  • Sonny Lusch

    Holy shit. I mean, the guy’s not breaking any new ground here. It’s “5 things wrong with the Winter Classic” not deep thoughts or rocket science. And while everything he mentioned goes on at indoor venues no matter the sport and no matter what’s on the broadcast, I think he’s pointing out the hypocrisy of labelling it a special event and yet subjecting fans year after year to the same idiotic distractions they get on a regular ticket.

    And “I have your job,” if ya think no one’s gonna go to Northern Wisconsin for hockey, you don’t know how crazy fans are. They’d go to Fairbanks in February for the experience. Just like nobody’s gonna go to football in Northern Wisconsin…

  • Sonny Lusch

    Holy shit. I mean, the guy’s not breaking any new ground here. It’s “5 things wrong with the Winter Classic” not deep thoughts or rocket science. And while everything he mentioned goes on at indoor venues no matter the sport and no matter what’s on the broadcast, I think he’s pointing out the hypocrisy of labelling it a special event and yet subjecting fans year after year to the same idiotic distractions they get on a regular ticket.

    And “I have your job,” if ya think no one’s gonna go to Northern Wisconsin for hockey, you don’t know how crazy fans are. They’d go to Fairbanks in February for the experience. Just like nobody’s gonna go to football in Northern Wisconsin…

  • http://flyersfaithful.com Marcello

    Folks, please stop fighting. One more antagonistic post and I’m turning off comments on this article.

  • http://flyersfaithful.com Marcello

    Folks, please stop fighting. One more antagonistic post and I’m turning off comments on this article.

  • http://flyersfaithful.com Marcello

    Folks, please stop fighting. One more antagonistic post and I’m turning off comments on this article.