Dazzlers and Duds: The Finals – Giroux v. Gagne and Carcillo v. Asham

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Several weeks back, we asked our beloved Twitter followers who were their most loved and hated Flyers of the past decade. It led to some great names and some great discussion. Well it got us thinking. In the doldrums that is August in the hockey world — not to mention the impending doom of a lockout —  we decided to put together a tournament; poll style!

We’ve compiled the responses for both the Loved and Hated categories, and seeded them according to our whims and wishes. What you see before you is the result of our efforts. While we may not necessarily agree with some of the nominations, the people have spoken!

Over three weeks, beginning on Monday September 3rd, we will determine who is the most loved and the most hated Flyer of the past decade.

Each weekday we will post a new poll, containing one match-up for each bracket, both the Loved and the Hated. That poll will remain open until midnight of the same day — or, frankly, whenever we decide to tally the votes — where we will note the winners, and announce them the following day, along with the next day’s match-ups.

Ranting and raving about your love and/or hatred for the given players, is not only allowed, it is encouraged. I, for one, am excited to see the results for some of the more polarizing Flyers!


Yesterday’s Results:
Simon Gagne was victorious over John LeClair and Dan Carcillo eliminates Steve Downie.





The Championship candidates:

Who is the most loved Flyer of the past decade, Giroux or Gagne?

  • Simon Gagne (70%, 148 Votes)
  • Claude Giroux (30%, 68 Votes)

Total Voters: 212

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I feel compelled to state that I really don’t understand any “hate” for Asham. That said, I guess it’s a testament to the fact that it’s hard to find anyone to “hate” at all!

Who is the most hated Flyer of the past decade, Asham or Carcillo?

  • Dan Carcillo (68%, 139 Votes)
  • Arron Asham (32%, 67 Votes)

Total Voters: 205

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  • http://flyersfaithful.com Marcello

    It still boggles my mind that Steve Downie lost to a rapist.

    • Bob H

      Amen, brotha.

    • http://www.flyersfaithful.com/ Kevin Christmann

      I voted Downie. I put more weight for the on-ice stuff and the guy only played 9 games. I also barely remember him haha. All in all, I don’t agree with a lot of the “hated” nominations/results.

  • Max Power

    In every round of this “tournament,” I always knew who I wanted to vote for immediately. But i figured it was going to come down to Gagne vs. Giroux, and I knew I would have no idea how to choose between them. I’ve been a huge fan of Gags for pretty much his whole career. His jersey was the first I ever bought, and I remember how sad I was when he got traded (even though you knew it was coming). When I got my copy of NHL 13, the very first thing I did was edit the rosters to put Gagne back on the Flyers.

    On the other hand, Giroux is….Giroux. A little rougher around the edges than Gagne, but I can’t think about “the shift” without getting goose bumps and the urge to punch a Penguins fan in the junk. As sad as I was when Gagne got traded, if anything happened to Giroux, I’d probably hang myself. So on that basis, I finally voted for Giroux…but then I was happy (and even relieved) to see Gagne was winning handily.

  • M.C. Philly

    All in all my vote right now would be Giroux, for a variety of reasons. Not the least of which be that extra bit of grit, sheer competitive drive, and passion that is simply unmatched. Not saying Gags doesn’t have any of these qualities, but it just didn’t seem like it came in spades in comparison to G. And I hate to say it, but there were times (not a ton mind you, but) it seemed like Gagne was floating out there. I never get that sense watching Giroux play. Also, numbers are numbers & at this same point in there careers Giroux has done more then Gagne did by age 24. Gagne actually has two more regular season points, 245 to Giroux’s 243, but was called up & played an entire year earlier then G did. But bottom line for me is always playoffs, & G is one slick mofo in the post season. Sure, Gagne was sick in 09-10 playoffs, especially in that Boston series – but least we forget that Giroux had 9 more points then Gagne in that playoff run. And he hasn’t even entered his prime yet. We are in for a treat for years to come watching this guy play. Can’t wait.

    That being said, before G came along Gagne was my favourite Flyer. So I can’t be unhappy with either result. Just trying to make a case for Giroux. Only thing that sucks is that these two were teammates for far too short a period.

    Funny Note: Giroux and Gagne were both selected by the Flyers in the 1st round, 22nd overall, in their respective draft years.

    • http://www.flyersfaithful.com/ Kevin Christmann

      I know what you mean about Gagne seeming to float at times, and he’s my favorite player. I never considered it floating, I considered it more of him basically always making the overly safe play.

      It sort of bothered me at times because Gagne was so good, yet rarely seemed to challenge people. He just used his superior skating and great shot and that was it. I would have liked to see him challenge more people and play with the sort of confidence someone like Giroux does.

      Basically, Gagne took what you gave him and made the best of it. It’s not good enough for Giroux to take what he’s given, he will create something if need be.

      Just the type of player he is/was I guess.

  • http://www.flyersfaithful.com/ Kevin Christmann

    It’s Gagne for me. He’s my favorite player ever. Giroux could surpass him eventually though!

  • http://www.armlessoctopus.com/ Mike Wall

    I’m not shocked this came down to G vs Gags, but the hated column kinda baffles me. I didn’t realize there was any hatred for Asham at all. I remember him as an ideal third line kinda guy. He played 2 years, averaged 9 goals/22 points a season and stood up for other players. I don’t really remember too many bad penalties or lazy defensive play, but maybe I’m just forgetful? Obviously it’s easy to hate him now because of the playoff series, but I didn’t think that was the point of this little experiment.

    Anyways, I’m not a huge Carbomb hater either, but I gotta vote for him here. He was pretty infuriating just because it always seemed like there was so much potential for him to actually be a legit hockey player…and then he’d do something to prove that he has rocks for brains.

    For the record, my most hated flyer would be Randy Jones. Guy was a turnover machine.

    • http://www.flyersfaithful.com/ Kevin Christmann

      I agree with basically everything you’ve said. Not the best hated bracket, but it’s tough to come up with guys. Jones may have been mine as well. He just wasn’t good at all and signed that contract that was so apparently terrible from the start. Add in that he was claimed on re-entry waivers and that hurt us as well (although that’s Homer’s fault).

  • Kim Pollock

    Gagne all the way!!

  • Tom Ciaverelli

    Giroux deserves the most love for the “shift”, but Hextall should have been in the list. I would have voted him the entire way, cause he embodies the Flyer spirit to the max.

    • http://www.flyersfaithful.com/ Kevin Christmann

      The list is only for the past decade, or else he would have been on it for sure!