Homer’s Do’s and Doh’s: The Finals – Hartnell/Timonen Rights Trade v. Carter Trade

Paul Holmgren became the interim General Manager of the Philadelphia Flyers on October 22, 2006. That interim title was removed only weeks later on November 11. Holmgren was able to take a team that finished last in the National Hockey League, and rebuild it to make a deep run all the way to the Eastern Conference Finals the very next season.

Yes, some of Holmgren’s moves have been amazing, but he’s also a guy who has gotten this organization into some hot water with the salary cap and was forced to make deals that were head scratchers to say the least.

If you enjoyed our Dazzlers and Duds polltastic tournament feature, we’ve got another one all lined up for you. Flyers Faithful proudly presents Homer’s Do’s and Doh’s: Our Favorite and Least Favorite Deals Under Paul Holmgren.

Starting Monday, November 19, there will be a single bracket with 32 trades, signings, and waiver-wire claims and losses, to determine exactly which deal everyone thinks is Holmgren’s best so far, his less than favorable so far, and whether the good outweighs the bad or vice-versa.

I don’t think anyone can deny that it’s been a real entertaining and exciting time in Flyers history with Holmgren at the helm. That’s a fact. But is Holmgren the king of exchange swinging, or does his penchant for quick fixes get him into more trouble than he’s worth?


Today’s contestants:

2007 1st round pick back to Nashville Predators for Kimmo Timonen’s and Scott Hartnell’s signing rights
write-up courtesy of Bob H

Under any other circumstances, dealing away a valuable first-round draft pick for anything other than a sure-fire name player at any position who will step in and provide an immediate boost would be a gamble most GMs wouldn’t make, the climate around the Flyers in the Winter of 2007 dictated that desperate moves be made. Coming off a season in which the club finished dead last in the NHL, Philly decided to reach out once more to a familiar trade partner in the Preds (who had been generous enough to take Peter Forsberg off our hands in late February), who gladly obliged thanks to the vagaries of keeping multiple talented players on one roster in the salary-cap era. The return has been 10-fold from its potential: only 10 combined seasons of consistent play from rock-steady Timonen and a cycle of ebb and flow from folk hero Hartnell, who have combined for 156 goals and 469 points over 804 regular-season games. Solid players and solid human beings, both guys will be remembered as true Flyers once they leave this city and this league for good.

Jeff Carter to Columbus Blue Jackets for Jakub Voracek, 2011 first-round pick (Sean Couturier), and 2011 thrd-round pick (Nick Cousins)

write-up courtesy of Marc Siciliano

Jeff Carter is a pretty good hockey player, but it just wasn’t working for him in Philadelphia. That came to a head when both he and Mike Richards were traded on June 23, 2011. The thing is, you won’t find many people questioning the trade of #17 like you will the trade of #18, a sentiment seemingly felt even before the emergence of Sean Couturier and Nick Cousins.

Paul Holmgren fleeced the Blue Jackets. You can argue that Jakub Voracek and the 3rd that was Nick Cousins might even have been enough to make this trade a win, but the icing on the cake is the 8th overall pick that turned into Sean Couturier. At just 19 years of age, he could prove to be the best player in a trade that happened before he even entered the league.

Filed under the laughable category: also there to potentially draft was blue chip defensive prospect Dougie Hamilton, a prospect the Flyers apparently considered. With his projected future as a franchise defensemen, you have to think he’ll give Jack Johnson a run for his money as the better long-term defensemen – a thought that can’t help Blue Jackets fans sleep at night. But at least you have the All-Star game coming up? Never mind, that just got cancelled. Sorry Jackets fans!

Which Paul Holmgren move was better?

  • Jeff Carter to Columbus Blue Jackets for Jakub Voracek, 2011 1st round pick (Sean Couturier), and 2011 3rd round pick (Nick Cousins) (55%, 51 Votes)
  • 2007 1st round pick back to Nashville Predators for Kimmo Timonen's and Scott Hartnell's signing rights (45%, 42 Votes)

Total Voters: 93

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